Homeboy got it worse than I thought. Too much jheri curl.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbJfyqejtz4
Do you think he said, "hehe," "Jamal," or "Ma ma se, ma ma sa, Ma Ma coo sa?"
Thursday, July 16, 2009
Wednesday, July 8, 2009
Joe Jackson Appreciation Thread
I would like to take this time to give kudos to a great father, a genetic jackhammer, and the best manager ever, the multi-talented Joe Jackson, better known as Michael Jackson's pappy.
The man who created (in more ways than one) and managed The Jackson 5 to great heights. Not to mention doing the same for sexy superstar Janet Jackson (even in her chubby stages), LaToya, and underrated Rebbie.
Before we go to the business side, let’s think about this for a second, the man fathered nine kids. But not any nine kids, nine SUPERSTAR kids. No one has ever done that before or since and probably never will. A person would be lucky if they could procreate one star child, but this genetic jackhammer produce nine of these motherfuckers including the biggest one of all time. What genes! Without question the best genes in the world. Unlike his seventh child, he produced these children naturally too. Michael should've had Joe whip up a batch and been the father to his children, not some honky. One, it would've kept it in the family and two; the track record was there for guaranteed stardom. This is the man that should be a model for African American men and families. He had nine kids; he didn't leave them but raised them, and raised them to be superstars.
Let’s talk about the great man and where it all began. Joe Jackson was a former boxer who lived in Gary, Indiana (arguably the biggest shit hole in the country even back then) and worked as a crane operator at U.S. Steel. While he worked hard to keep food on the table for all those mouths, his wife stayed home and raised the kids (Tito's note: If we deport all the illegals, wages would raise and more people could support 9 kids on one income today). His boxing background and outstanding work ethic is what made him the great manager he became and that rubbed off on his children to become hard workers in their own right and eventually become superstars (under his management of course).
As you can tell by his background, Joe was a great family man (9 kids, hard worker, nuclear family, etc.) which was commonplace when this country was good and had morals (knowing the difference between right and wrong) in the 1950’s. He was like many great fathers during that bygone era: he was the leader of family, the breadwinner, and disciplinarian – one not afraid to give his kids a crack when they deserved it. Even to this day, he is still a good traditional family man speaking out against homosexuals as he stated in a 2003 interview, "We don't believe in gays. I can't stand them.”
Although Joe came from a blue collar background, he was a very smart business man as we would see when he formed and managed his sons and what would become the legendary, “Jackson 5.”
After seeing his sons monkey around and singing in his living room, Joe the great talent evaluator that he is, saw the talent instantly. Long story short, he got them signed to Motown. Under his outstanding management, the Jackson 5 would become one of Motown’s biggest acts. Joe would parlay their popularity into cartoons and a variety show as well.
When he became dissatisfied on how Motown was handling the band, Joe played hardball and took the band elsewhere, namely CBS records. With his great business acumen, he negotiated a 20% royalty rate per record, compared to Motown's standard 2.8%. The new contract would also allow the band to have their own creative freedom by allowing the Jackson brothers to write and produce their own records and play their own instruments. Basically, everything any artist would want. However during this time Jermaine Jackson, who had married Berry Gordy’s daughter, decided to stay with Motown due to loyalty – another solid trait Joe instilled in his boys.
During this time, Michael’s talents couldn’t be denied. Under Joe’s guidance, Michael became the biggest star in the history of the music business. He successfully transitioned Michael from a child star into an adult star, but not any adult star- the biggest star of them all. Needless to say this accomplishment was a hard task, something that has never been done before or since. But, Joe did it.
In 1984, the black (at the time) sheep of the family fired his loving father. While under Joe’s watchful and caring eye, Michael was normal and rose to become the biggest star of all time. After firing his dad, Michael regressed as an artist and as a person becoming an immature and strange person at minimum and possibly a lot worse. It became clear; Mike still needed Joe’s tough love.
Whether it was sleeping with young boys, hanging out with Bubbles, or lavish spending, Mike would’ve been better off if Joe was there to slap him across his face and tell him to knock it off.
Over the years, Joe’s image has been unfairly tarnished by false allegations. He was alleged to abuse his children, claims which he has denied repeatedly. He was never found guilty in a court of law and as a matter of fact has never had any criminal charges brought up against him or even had so much as a criminal investigation against him. The only one to ever accuse him was his ungrateful son/freak, Michael. Since Michael Jackson fans and supporters say, Michael was not a child molester because he was found not guilty in a court of law and it was just one persons story, the same must hold true for Joe Jackson – he is an innocent man. We must disregard the alleged charges and only look at the positives. In that case, we all must agree, Joe was a hell of a father and the best manager ever. Not to mention, he didn’t ever have to settle with anyone for $20 million to drop any “false” charges. He is truly a legend and should be teaching business classes at Harvard. Without question, an icon in the entertainment business.
Over the past two weeks, the world has mourned the loss of Michael Jackson. During that time, it has become clear Mike had a drug addiction, something Joe never had, and most likely died of a drug overdose. I think it has also become abundantly clear that if Joe was still managing Michael, Mike would still be around. Not only would he still be around, he wouldn’t have been a freak and may have even been a bad motherfucker. I think it’s safe to say, Michael still needed and deserved to get a crack across the head at age 50.
Hopefully, when his time is up, Joseph Jackson will get the adoration that Michael has received the past two weeks. It’s more than deserved. I hope the naysayers and critics also forgive and let go of the “false” allegations and look at only the positives this man brought to the world. He should get the same respect Michael has received. If it wasn’t for Joe there wouldn’t have been a Michael Jackson. If Michael would’ve been born in any other household in Gary, Indiana, he would be serving life behind bars like most of the town. I hope before Michael departed the world, he realized how much he father did for him.
This world needs more Joe Jacksons as fathers. Good disciplinarians. Joe, we appreciate you.
The man who created (in more ways than one) and managed The Jackson 5 to great heights. Not to mention doing the same for sexy superstar Janet Jackson (even in her chubby stages), LaToya, and underrated Rebbie.
Before we go to the business side, let’s think about this for a second, the man fathered nine kids. But not any nine kids, nine SUPERSTAR kids. No one has ever done that before or since and probably never will. A person would be lucky if they could procreate one star child, but this genetic jackhammer produce nine of these motherfuckers including the biggest one of all time. What genes! Without question the best genes in the world. Unlike his seventh child, he produced these children naturally too. Michael should've had Joe whip up a batch and been the father to his children, not some honky. One, it would've kept it in the family and two; the track record was there for guaranteed stardom. This is the man that should be a model for African American men and families. He had nine kids; he didn't leave them but raised them, and raised them to be superstars.
Let’s talk about the great man and where it all began. Joe Jackson was a former boxer who lived in Gary, Indiana (arguably the biggest shit hole in the country even back then) and worked as a crane operator at U.S. Steel. While he worked hard to keep food on the table for all those mouths, his wife stayed home and raised the kids (Tito's note: If we deport all the illegals, wages would raise and more people could support 9 kids on one income today). His boxing background and outstanding work ethic is what made him the great manager he became and that rubbed off on his children to become hard workers in their own right and eventually become superstars (under his management of course).
As you can tell by his background, Joe was a great family man (9 kids, hard worker, nuclear family, etc.) which was commonplace when this country was good and had morals (knowing the difference between right and wrong) in the 1950’s. He was like many great fathers during that bygone era: he was the leader of family, the breadwinner, and disciplinarian – one not afraid to give his kids a crack when they deserved it. Even to this day, he is still a good traditional family man speaking out against homosexuals as he stated in a 2003 interview, "We don't believe in gays. I can't stand them.”
Although Joe came from a blue collar background, he was a very smart business man as we would see when he formed and managed his sons and what would become the legendary, “Jackson 5.”
After seeing his sons monkey around and singing in his living room, Joe the great talent evaluator that he is, saw the talent instantly. Long story short, he got them signed to Motown. Under his outstanding management, the Jackson 5 would become one of Motown’s biggest acts. Joe would parlay their popularity into cartoons and a variety show as well.
When he became dissatisfied on how Motown was handling the band, Joe played hardball and took the band elsewhere, namely CBS records. With his great business acumen, he negotiated a 20% royalty rate per record, compared to Motown's standard 2.8%. The new contract would also allow the band to have their own creative freedom by allowing the Jackson brothers to write and produce their own records and play their own instruments. Basically, everything any artist would want. However during this time Jermaine Jackson, who had married Berry Gordy’s daughter, decided to stay with Motown due to loyalty – another solid trait Joe instilled in his boys.
During this time, Michael’s talents couldn’t be denied. Under Joe’s guidance, Michael became the biggest star in the history of the music business. He successfully transitioned Michael from a child star into an adult star, but not any adult star- the biggest star of them all. Needless to say this accomplishment was a hard task, something that has never been done before or since. But, Joe did it.
In 1984, the black (at the time) sheep of the family fired his loving father. While under Joe’s watchful and caring eye, Michael was normal and rose to become the biggest star of all time. After firing his dad, Michael regressed as an artist and as a person becoming an immature and strange person at minimum and possibly a lot worse. It became clear; Mike still needed Joe’s tough love.
Whether it was sleeping with young boys, hanging out with Bubbles, or lavish spending, Mike would’ve been better off if Joe was there to slap him across his face and tell him to knock it off.
Over the years, Joe’s image has been unfairly tarnished by false allegations. He was alleged to abuse his children, claims which he has denied repeatedly. He was never found guilty in a court of law and as a matter of fact has never had any criminal charges brought up against him or even had so much as a criminal investigation against him. The only one to ever accuse him was his ungrateful son/freak, Michael. Since Michael Jackson fans and supporters say, Michael was not a child molester because he was found not guilty in a court of law and it was just one persons story, the same must hold true for Joe Jackson – he is an innocent man. We must disregard the alleged charges and only look at the positives. In that case, we all must agree, Joe was a hell of a father and the best manager ever. Not to mention, he didn’t ever have to settle with anyone for $20 million to drop any “false” charges. He is truly a legend and should be teaching business classes at Harvard. Without question, an icon in the entertainment business.
Over the past two weeks, the world has mourned the loss of Michael Jackson. During that time, it has become clear Mike had a drug addiction, something Joe never had, and most likely died of a drug overdose. I think it has also become abundantly clear that if Joe was still managing Michael, Mike would still be around. Not only would he still be around, he wouldn’t have been a freak and may have even been a bad motherfucker. I think it’s safe to say, Michael still needed and deserved to get a crack across the head at age 50.
Hopefully, when his time is up, Joseph Jackson will get the adoration that Michael has received the past two weeks. It’s more than deserved. I hope the naysayers and critics also forgive and let go of the “false” allegations and look at only the positives this man brought to the world. He should get the same respect Michael has received. If it wasn’t for Joe there wouldn’t have been a Michael Jackson. If Michael would’ve been born in any other household in Gary, Indiana, he would be serving life behind bars like most of the town. I hope before Michael departed the world, he realized how much he father did for him.
This world needs more Joe Jacksons as fathers. Good disciplinarians. Joe, we appreciate you.
Tuesday, July 7, 2009
Thursday, September 18, 2008
Arnel Rolling Stone Article
I'm not worried. He's just homesick. Everyone goes through it at some point when they leave home for the first time - whether it's an out of town job or a kid going off to college for the first time. Being in a different country also makes it that much more difficult. By next year, he'll be use to it and he'll be even stronger. If not, sneak the girlfriend and kid over the border.
Cocaine dealer allegedly tacks on $25 fuel surcharge to meet rising gas prices
September 17, 2008
PORTAGE, Ind. — A man facing drug charges allegedly told a police informant he’s charging customers an extra $25 because high gas prices have boosted his delivery expenses.
According to Porter County court records, 18-year-old Anthony Salinas of Hammond told a confidential source for the county’s drug task force in June that with rising gas prices, he had to add the extra charge to the $215 he allegedly was charging for 7.2 grams of cocaine.
Salinas then raised the price to $250 for what turned out to be 7.5 grams that he delivered in Portage on June 26, records state. Salinas promised the price would drop to $230 on the next deal, according to records.
Porter County authorities charged Salinas with two counts of dealing cocaine on Sept. 8, but he was no longer in the Porter County Jail as of Wednesday. If convicted, he could face up to 100 years in prison.
Followup to Melodic Rock Posts
Andrew page 3: "I have said all along that Tito is only on a holiday and can return when he accepts that he has been pushing me into a corner with his baiting and I don't see any comments that show he accepts that.
To turn this into an issue about how much shit other band members have got over the years here is to miss the point by a mile.
When Tito "gets it", he can return."
Tito: How have I pushed you into a corner, more specifically what baiting? That is messing around with the Debs and Behshads of the world. No one has taken offense to it. Soto is thickskin so he can handle it. Plus it comes with the territory of being a star. Come on have fun.
I do NOT want to turn this into the other crap other band members have taken also. Even though I disagree with the unfairness in those comments towards Journey members, I believe in 100% free speech, so I am not trying to shut others down. I believe in freedom and creativity, which I believe you do too as a record company executive.
Andrew page 3: "Push me and I react. Simple. The guy was getting up my nose. I've sent a message to him about returning and I'll wait and see what the response from him is."
Tito: How was I getting up your nose? Is the message you're talking about the one you sent through Saint John and now the message board?
Blueskies page 3: "Andrew has given plenty of warning to tone it down and given your buddy lots of rope....so it was up to Tito to call for the noose or not...What's up with the dude and his hating on Soto anyway? What has Soto done to cause such vehemence ? ...because he surely can't be faulted on his talent...or for what he did for the band by jumping in short notice and finishing a tour for them......so what's up with you guys? Why can't every one of them simply be appreciated for their talents and contributions?"
Tito: I was unofficially given one warning nearly a month ago on the board. I also feel I wasn't attacking Soto when I got suspended/put on holiday. I think Andrew was looking for a reason to suspend me or wouldn't have done it if Soto didn't pop in (Mr. Thickskin). I never had an issue with Soto technically, my comments were more directed to his unrealistic fans on the site. However, some backdoor shots lately along with leaking things back in the day have made him fair game although I never address him personally. As far as talent goes - to each their own. I personally think he's a dime a dozen.
Rick page 3: "Stevew2 says a lot about Jon, but he doesn't argue the point that Jon isn't as good of a musician that others think he is. Steve is just having a little fun at Jon's expense. No harm, no foul. "
Tito: And me with Soto.
Andrew page 3: "Again, you and T are not getting the point. It was NOT that thread...it was the combination of 12 months worth of butting his head into things I asked him not to. I just lost my patience with him."
Tito: 12 months? I've only been a member for 4 months. In fairness, it's been 4 productive months so it may feel like 12. I did not butt my head into anything, I stated an opinion which many agreed with, and you only asked me once...awhile ago. As far as lost your patience with me goes to the point I made above - you were looking for reason to give me the heave ho. I still love you though.
Blueskies page 4: "2.) Why not wish Soto the best with concert attendance? Why not wish Journey the best with theirs?..
3.) Your the one that doesn't seem to be able to handle a differing opinion ...this is the first time
4.) I could care less about sales and concert numbers...if I like something I buy it and maybe go to a concert...if I don't like it then I don't buy it...it's up tp others whether they like it or not....you take this stuff entirely tooo seriously....whats it to you? are you in the business? does it affect you?.....just relax already and enjoy the music!
Tito: That is like a Bear fan wishing the Packers or a Red Sox fan wishing the Yankees good luck. I'm a sh-t talking fan.
We are the ones who can handle the differing opinions. We have never sent a PM to Drew about board content/opinions about people/bands,etc. I'm the one suspended. I have never called Soto or any of his fans a bad name or got personal. I only provided constructive criticism.
I have no problem and agree with you about liking something that isn't popular. However, it is fair game for the sh-t talkers. You don't see us running around like maniacs about 7th Heaven.
Deb page 4: " Actually no, was to busy rockin' out to count heads."
Tito: You could've done both. You could've counted ALL the heads before the intro to a song had just begun. LOL
Note: Rick and Deb no appreciation threads for you. LOL
Blueskies page 4: "It's ok, personally, I think the problem is Dan and Tito have a man crush on Soto, don't you? ...(not that there's anything wrong with that...just saying) All the women know how they feel so we can't blame them for feeling that way....just wish they would stop fighting the feeling and embrace it.
Tito: I don't get the crush by the females. Don't get me wrong, I'm not a prize either but Soto is not good looking. NOTE: Although not my intent as I was responding to the above post, this may qualify as the first personal shot at Soto. Again not my intent but if people have an issue with my comment and take that as a shot, I'll concede the point.
Crazy Dulce Lady page 5: " for the record, this deb doesn't like it."
Tito: Schutt, I thought you liked the messing around. From now on, I lay off you in regards to Soto.
Arianduu page 5: "When the moderator of a board lobs you a chill pill - take it
If you don't agree or you think it's unfair, politely and privately contact the moderator and say something like 'I think you may be over-reacting, could you please expand on why you think there is a problem.
If you think you are getting told to chill when you see others getting away with something worse, again, contact the moderator privately but you would like to note that there seems to be a discrepancy in how things are being handled, and politely reference those others, stressing that you are not denying responsibility for your own actions but you would like to understand the logic. And either it will be explained to you where the difference lies, or a few more chill pills will be lobbed at someone else.
Tito man, we miss you, but don't try to justify what you did or didn't do. Just swallow the chill; you don't have to agree with Andrew's reasoning, but at least acknowledge you ignored the warnings and will try to cool off in the future on the subject. "
Tito: I thik Andrew is overreacting. LOL But I don't want to bother him with PMs. Again, my intent is not to silence anyone else or compare myself to someone else's posts. Once again, I don't want to bombard Andrew with PMs and create work for him. In addition, I do NOT want to tell him how to run his board (except to let me back on LOL). Remember the time, we were all giving suggestion to him a couple of months ago by his request and yours truly gave his two cents and I was told and I quote, "To STFU and let me (Andrew) run the board." I'm still waiting for that apology.
I was ONLY unofficially warned once on the board.
Strangegray page 5: " So is this a bad time to say I think JSS's new song has a Lenny Kravitz sound to it?!"
Tito: Thank you! A bad time for you but a good time for me. LOL
Susie P: " And I also think the song has a Lenny Kravitz feel to it."
Tito: Thank you also! 2-0.
Crazy Dulce Lady page 6: " an LK look more than a sound, me thinks."
Tito: Agreed! 3-0.
Behshad page 6: "He posted on the interview page AFTER the fact the he was banned here. "
Tito: That is correct! I had no other outlet and I felt the need to correct some inaccuracies/disagreements I had with the interview. I would have commented on MR and not "followed" Soto over to the article but I had nowhere else to go.
To turn this into an issue about how much shit other band members have got over the years here is to miss the point by a mile.
When Tito "gets it", he can return."
Tito: How have I pushed you into a corner, more specifically what baiting? That is messing around with the Debs and Behshads of the world. No one has taken offense to it. Soto is thickskin so he can handle it. Plus it comes with the territory of being a star. Come on have fun.
I do NOT want to turn this into the other crap other band members have taken also. Even though I disagree with the unfairness in those comments towards Journey members, I believe in 100% free speech, so I am not trying to shut others down. I believe in freedom and creativity, which I believe you do too as a record company executive.
Andrew page 3: "Push me and I react. Simple. The guy was getting up my nose. I've sent a message to him about returning and I'll wait and see what the response from him is."
Tito: How was I getting up your nose? Is the message you're talking about the one you sent through Saint John and now the message board?
Blueskies page 3: "Andrew has given plenty of warning to tone it down and given your buddy lots of rope....so it was up to Tito to call for the noose or not...What's up with the dude and his hating on Soto anyway? What has Soto done to cause such vehemence ? ...because he surely can't be faulted on his talent...or for what he did for the band by jumping in short notice and finishing a tour for them......so what's up with you guys? Why can't every one of them simply be appreciated for their talents and contributions?"
Tito: I was unofficially given one warning nearly a month ago on the board. I also feel I wasn't attacking Soto when I got suspended/put on holiday. I think Andrew was looking for a reason to suspend me or wouldn't have done it if Soto didn't pop in (Mr. Thickskin). I never had an issue with Soto technically, my comments were more directed to his unrealistic fans on the site. However, some backdoor shots lately along with leaking things back in the day have made him fair game although I never address him personally. As far as talent goes - to each their own. I personally think he's a dime a dozen.
Rick page 3: "Stevew2 says a lot about Jon, but he doesn't argue the point that Jon isn't as good of a musician that others think he is. Steve is just having a little fun at Jon's expense. No harm, no foul. "
Tito: And me with Soto.
Andrew page 3: "Again, you and T are not getting the point. It was NOT that thread...it was the combination of 12 months worth of butting his head into things I asked him not to. I just lost my patience with him."
Tito: 12 months? I've only been a member for 4 months. In fairness, it's been 4 productive months so it may feel like 12. I did not butt my head into anything, I stated an opinion which many agreed with, and you only asked me once...awhile ago. As far as lost your patience with me goes to the point I made above - you were looking for reason to give me the heave ho. I still love you though.
Blueskies page 4: "2.) Why not wish Soto the best with concert attendance? Why not wish Journey the best with theirs?..
3.) Your the one that doesn't seem to be able to handle a differing opinion ...this is the first time
4.) I could care less about sales and concert numbers...if I like something I buy it and maybe go to a concert...if I don't like it then I don't buy it...it's up tp others whether they like it or not....you take this stuff entirely tooo seriously....whats it to you? are you in the business? does it affect you?.....just relax already and enjoy the music!
Tito: That is like a Bear fan wishing the Packers or a Red Sox fan wishing the Yankees good luck. I'm a sh-t talking fan.
We are the ones who can handle the differing opinions. We have never sent a PM to Drew about board content/opinions about people/bands,etc. I'm the one suspended. I have never called Soto or any of his fans a bad name or got personal. I only provided constructive criticism.
I have no problem and agree with you about liking something that isn't popular. However, it is fair game for the sh-t talkers. You don't see us running around like maniacs about 7th Heaven.
Deb page 4: " Actually no, was to busy rockin' out to count heads."
Tito: You could've done both. You could've counted ALL the heads before the intro to a song had just begun. LOL
Note: Rick and Deb no appreciation threads for you. LOL
Blueskies page 4: "It's ok, personally, I think the problem is Dan and Tito have a man crush on Soto, don't you? ...(not that there's anything wrong with that...just saying) All the women know how they feel so we can't blame them for feeling that way....just wish they would stop fighting the feeling and embrace it.
Tito: I don't get the crush by the females. Don't get me wrong, I'm not a prize either but Soto is not good looking. NOTE: Although not my intent as I was responding to the above post, this may qualify as the first personal shot at Soto. Again not my intent but if people have an issue with my comment and take that as a shot, I'll concede the point.
Crazy Dulce Lady page 5: " for the record, this deb doesn't like it."
Tito: Schutt, I thought you liked the messing around. From now on, I lay off you in regards to Soto.
Arianduu page 5: "When the moderator of a board lobs you a chill pill - take it
If you don't agree or you think it's unfair, politely and privately contact the moderator and say something like 'I think you may be over-reacting, could you please expand on why you think there is a problem.
If you think you are getting told to chill when you see others getting away with something worse, again, contact the moderator privately but you would like to note that there seems to be a discrepancy in how things are being handled, and politely reference those others, stressing that you are not denying responsibility for your own actions but you would like to understand the logic. And either it will be explained to you where the difference lies, or a few more chill pills will be lobbed at someone else.
Tito man, we miss you, but don't try to justify what you did or didn't do. Just swallow the chill; you don't have to agree with Andrew's reasoning, but at least acknowledge you ignored the warnings and will try to cool off in the future on the subject. "
Tito: I thik Andrew is overreacting. LOL But I don't want to bother him with PMs. Again, my intent is not to silence anyone else or compare myself to someone else's posts. Once again, I don't want to bombard Andrew with PMs and create work for him. In addition, I do NOT want to tell him how to run his board (except to let me back on LOL). Remember the time, we were all giving suggestion to him a couple of months ago by his request and yours truly gave his two cents and I was told and I quote, "To STFU and let me (Andrew) run the board." I'm still waiting for that apology.
I was ONLY unofficially warned once on the board.
Strangegray page 5: " So is this a bad time to say I think JSS's new song has a Lenny Kravitz sound to it?!"
Tito: Thank you! A bad time for you but a good time for me. LOL
Susie P: " And I also think the song has a Lenny Kravitz feel to it."
Tito: Thank you also! 2-0.
Crazy Dulce Lady page 6: " an LK look more than a sound, me thinks."
Tito: Agreed! 3-0.
Behshad page 6: "He posted on the interview page AFTER the fact the he was banned here. "
Tito: That is correct! I had no other outlet and I felt the need to correct some inaccuracies/disagreements I had with the interview. I would have commented on MR and not "followed" Soto over to the article but I had nowhere else to go.
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